This lecture took place in the Auditorium of the Rouen Museum of Fine Arts on 1 February 2024. It was held at the invitation of the Centre Photographique Rouen Normandie, to coincide with the exhibition “La Rose est sans pourquoi” and as part of the “Écoute l’artiste” series. This series of lectures is organised by the Rouen Métropole Visual Arts Network, in partnership with ESADHaR; they are introduced and moderated by Tania Vladova, Professor of Aesthetics at ESADHaR – Rouen.